Speaker 1 [00:32:57] I think it would be nice if we leave these as more experimental blocks of work, as something that is mutating into conversation.
Speaker 3 [00:33:18] I really like also the idea of sourcing out certain fragments of our projects, and having them sit alongside each other. Because then it's also about thinking with each other through the fragments rather than each of us individually trying to show everything from our projects.
Our conversations began in January of 2022, when the three of us got in touch to start monthly meetings. This desire grew out of friendship, following a number of conversations about how we were struggling, each in our own way, through difficult moments within our lives. Whether it was complicated by, or a product of, toxic cultures of pressure, we were all facing different forms of intertwined structural and personal stresses, both as practitioners and as independent artist-filmmakers. Since we started sharing our projects while working on them, our exchanges have become crucial parts of our individual practices. We prioritized these meetings as a way of gathering in support of each other, while at the same time providing room for our respective research. Here, filmmaking was a process of generative healing, as our interactions and conceptual concerns were not intended for any public-facing event.
Film had been the main operative tool across our works as we met each month. Our ongoing projects have been the following; Blanca is currently developing her practice-led PhD on the geopolitics and spatial articulations of particle physics’ «Sensing Infrastructures», looking at fundamental physics laboratories such as CERN and how they amplify material and political interactions. Henry is working on a multi-channel film installation titled «Aqua-Drama». The installation navigates a semi-fictional educational complex, made up of domestic, cultural and scientific institutions designed to rehearse future worst-case scenarios of global shipping. Solveig has been shooting a film which recounts her mother’s career as an optical engineer. The story is complicated by a non-disclosure agreement signed with the Chinese state in 1987, where her work traces around the absence of information, weaving alternative genealogies of optics through a mother-daughter relationship.
Over months of exchange, our projects became intertwined through questions surrounding particular hegemonic scales of time. Ocean modeling centers rehearsing one-in-a-thousand year storm events; the Chinese state using optical technology as a means of «catching up» with Western progress; subatomic particles that inaugurated the anthropogenic deep-time nuclear era. Each of our respective research projects and films interrogated what it meant to be living the futures proposed and enforced by corporate, state, or scientific powers. Quantum particles, family histories, and future scenarios problematized and reinforced linear Western preconceptions of time, causality, and progress. Drawn from feminist new materialist theories, thinking in terms of «thick» time became a way for us to grapple with questions on how we could use filmmaking to embody alternative registers of time together.
Speaker 1 [01:13:48] Symptoms that we are living the future of others had already been tested in the past.
Speaker 2 [01:14:23] Yeah, exactly, when I was looking at the Digital Belt and Road, they were supporting all of these «green» projects as a way to continue oil extraction in the Arctic, anticipating that the rise of global temperatures would allow for new shipping routes. And so they're already planning different oil rigs, using Big Earth Data to reinforce the credibility of their designs, which are being framed as sustainable development and, you know, something positive.
Speaker 3 [01:15:44] It links to how companies have been preparing for these futures and the effects on their own activities for a long time. You know, it's not just that they were aware; they were actually building into their simulations and models such things as sea level rise and worst case scenario storms. The extreme weather events we see, we now realize that capital already rehearsed them decades ago. Companies didn't just think about it and turn a blind eye to the research; some actually, materially built these features in a warehouse so they could simultaneously rehearse the negative effects of it on themselves while delegitimizing attempts to halt its acceleration in the real world.
Speaker 1 [01:19:04] By preparing, they legitimize everything.
Speaker 3 [01:17:41] Also, one of the things that resonated was the idea that technology will bring everyone faster to a better future. And again, we’re always confronted with this dominant future rhetoric.
Speaker 3 [01:02:11] Because you mentioned the thickness of time, I now feel like there are so many resonances, especially when thinking about space, time and paradoxes.
Speaker 1 [01:02:47] As you were speaking, I was also going to say that there are so many crossovers in terms of questions about cinema and how to make a film, which is kind of how we started that, didn't we?
Making films across archives, family homes and within techno-scientific institutions – each space we were investigating raised different questions about the act of filmmaking itself, disturbing notions of ethics, extraction, privacy, reputational capitalism, embodiment, and empathy. As research-based practitioners we are tasked with continually thinking through our methods of filming as a means of generating, rather than just illustrating knowledge. Discussing the tools, processes and knowledges we were using – lens filters, editing techniques, modes of staging – our monthly meetings helped us create the space needed to collectively reflect on alternative ways of producing our images.
Speaker 2 [01:36:05] But this was very interesting for me, That both projects know each other starting from the opposite points.
Speaker 1 [00:42:07] In your project the area of concealment that laboratories have is similar to the sort of concealment that is active in the factory your mother worked in. A sort of controlled set of conditions.
Speaker 2 [00:42:30] Yes, controlled conditions and also that could lead into archive as well and keeping and controlling conditions of knowledge.
Speaker 1 [01:14:43] Also the link between all of our projects is obviously the space of the laboratory or observatory. It's weird to think that the image to which we understand as the globe, and how we are constantly observing ourselves, we get into this feedback loop, where it becomes this endless form of observation. While chatting with the laboratory scientist, I basically said that you're in a sense endlessly chasing your own tail. Because the more you observe, the more you see.
Speaker 1 [00:42:19] It’s a really fruitful time to be together. It's not like we just share or watch our past works and talk about them. We're becoming involved in the process.
Speaker 3 [00:42:52] I think this is why it’s now worth meeting because we tried at other times and it was impossible.
Speaker 2 [00:43:10] Would be amazing to keep meeting to see the films come together. I now imagine going through those stages and then also when we get into the editing stage.
As a researcher at the Critical Media Lab in Basel, Switzerland, Solveig invited Henry and Blanca to join her at their colloquium on September 28th, 2022. Following our monthly meetings, we decided to use it as a performative space to publicly weave together relationships across our work. We shared various fragments taken from our projects in progress, using the act of being together in public as a moment to further entangle our respective projects, rather than displaying individual, finished works. Collectively rooting it in the politics of making films, we traced thematic threads between our projects across techno-scientific optics, intergenerational trauma, memory and modeled futures.